Saturday, April 30, 2005

Ala's school discipline and higher education forums:):):)...and Bigandmean's girly liberals forum:):):)...Part Deux:):):)...

A MUCH BETTER VERSION of this post is on my other blog:):):)...

Building a Better World:):):)...Original Flavor:):):)

WITH LINKS to Ala's and Bigandmean's (and Jen's) blogs:):):)...

Which I will post, again, here:):):)...

Blonde Sagacity:):):)...the random thoughts of an old-school conservative with a porn star twist:):):)...

~relatively unbalanced~:):):)...Bigandmean's and Jen's very sweet, very funny daddy/daughter blog:):):)...

Enjoy, everyone:):):)...

Love,
Ben

Ala's school discipline and higher education forums...and Bigandmeans' girlie liberal forum:):):):):):)...

For whatever reasons:):):)...

My comments for Ala and Bigandmean on their Blogspot blogs have not

been going through:):):)...

So...I'm reproducing them here since I thought we were having some

pretty decent discussions that I wanted to continue but wasn't able to

on in their comments' sections:):):)...

First...my response to Ala's most recent response in her school

discipline forum:):):)...

"Ala:)...

You're right:)...there are A MILLION great teaching movies to inspire

efforts to improve schools:):):)...

And the ONE thing that ALL of those movies have in common, without

having to parse out of the particular situations that schools face is

that teachers who build good RELATIONSHIPS with students are far more

likely to make a difference than teachers who are either unengaged,

discouraged, or who treat students like the enemy rather than as those

they are responsible for caring for...

Let's start with the movies, Ala...and then we'll move to where this

conversation needs to move...to the most engaged THINKING about schools

in universities and elsewhere:):):)...

I LOVED Stand By Me:):):):):):)...still do:):):):):):)...

And much of this movie was kind of candy, really:):):)...

Stand and Deliver, on the other hand, was a TERRIFIC movie about a

teacher who, BY AND LARGE, built strong relationships with his students

rather than bullying them...Jaime Escalante stood up to bullies...but

he did not bully them like principal (I'm forgetting his name, right

now...Joe...something:):):) in Stand By Me:):):)...

And remember, Ala...the superintendent in Stand By Me STANDS UP to Joe,

the principal -- Morgan Freeman's character -- FOR EXACTLY THAT

REASON...

As Ben Guillaume's character says in the movie, "Because contrary to

the conventional wisdom around here, I AM THE HEAD NIGGA IN CHARGE

around here"...

Meaning that not even Stand By Me romanticizing Joe's bullying as much

as your post might suggest...and even that movie romanticizes it too

much...

Stand and Deliver, on the other hand, romanticizes such nonsense almost

NOT AT ALL, as much as it is critical of the mindsets of teachers in

neighborhoods like their's where teachers assume that kids cannnot

achieve and create self-fulfilling prophecies...

The REAL POINT, Ala, is that there has always been and ALWAYS will be

plenty of "blame" to go around for who is responsible for failing

schools and failing in schools...

But the most constructive approaches to improving schools need to come

from OUR BEST efforts to think through alternatives to improve school

situations...

Many of these -- like school choice, vouchers, charter schools, etc. --

come from conservatives like Terry Moe and Chester Finn (though I love

Chester's work on charter schools, I'm not a big fan, AT ALL, of his

poorly-conceived ideas about school discipline...he wants to pattern

American life and American schools on SINGAPORE for God's sakes...I

say, Chester, you want to live in Singapore...go live there, you

ungrateful fuck...and leave the freedom of America to stay in

America)...

And many of them come from liberals --
like all Rich Simpson and Tom Skrtic -- and their ideas on least

restrictive environment and schools taking responsibilty for their own

too restrictive practices and the ways that this creates many problems

that they might otherwise ignore...

There are GREAT THINKERS ALL OVER THE IDEOLOGICAL SPECTRUM...

But the thinking is what we are FAR TOO BEREFT of in public school

discussions...as well as enough opportunities for parents and teachers

and students and others to get involved in such discussions to improve

schools...

It's crazy to me, Ala, how so many conservatives can embrace "tough

love" approaches and not see that all those liberal professors who

graded them down for expressing different ideas were also engaged in

"tough love" as much as anything that conservatives or anyone might

engage in with kids or liberals:):):):):):)...

The truth is, Ala, that we are ALL a bunch of bullies...looking to

limit discussion that we don't like...with one another...with

kids...with other parents...with teachers...with just about everyone...

Because we're all so GODDAMNED SURE that we know what's best...

It's self-righteous...and it's bullshit...and a more engaged discussion

of ALL of the complex issues in schools is the best antidote, I

think:):):):):):)...

I'll write more, later, Ala:):):)...

Talk with you later:):):):):):)...

Ben"...

...next...my comments for Ala on her higher education forum:):):)...

"Ala:):):)...what a crazy picture, huh?:):):):):):)...

Not the picture you want to show or see on the campus tour, huh, as

you're checking out those dumpy little dorm rooms?:):):):):):)...

No offense, y'all...but I think most people here are missing the

point...

Professors...teachers...administrators...none of

them...left...right...far left...far

right...libertarian...anarchist...socialist...theocratic (I'm quite

surprised that folks are not as outraged about a lot of the bullshit

that pretends to be a genuine pursuit or knowledge that shows up in

religious colleges and universities)...

None of these folks are perfect...

And the WHOLE POINT of democracy -- especially for a more authentic

democracy -- is that it accounts for the fact that people are

imperfect...the unique thing about democracy is that it openly

acknowledges that it is far from ideal and all of the discussion and

debate that takes place within it is far from ideal...always seeking

and searching out better and better ideals...that's the nature of free

and engaged thought and expression...

Meaning...that EVERYONE has to stop being such whining little pusses...

And start writing good papers and making good arguments and engaging in

good discussions NO MATTER WHO your professor is...

Because I GUARANTEE that -- as a general rule -- you will have FAR MORE

FREEDOM to do so in UNIVERSITIES than you will in almost every other

area of life...business, included...but much more than institutions

like, say, the military or law enforcement, where heterodoxy is treated

with MUCH less respect, in my study and experience, than in

universities...

So, contrary to the little dark fantasies of less capable folks like

David Horowitz (whether he was a radical liberal or a radical

conservative) is not to CENSOR the views of liberal or conservative or

WHATEVER professors we might have...

It's to stop whining, for goodness sakes...and start engaging the

discussion with MORE INTELLIGENT ARGUMENTS, if you got them...

And whoever said that universities are not the same as they were in the

old days are RIGHT...

They are FAR MORE OPEN:):):):):):):)...FAR MORE

EGALITARIAN:):):):):):)...FAR MORE READILY and FINANCIALLY within reach

of FAR MORE PEOPLE:):):):):):)...there are FAR MORE AMERICANS who go to

college today than any other time in American or probably humanity's

history:):):):):):)...which has EVERYTHING to do with the EXTRAORDINARY

efforts of all of those liberal, conservative, radical, anarchist,

libertarian, unaffiliated, and otherwise bright folks who teach and

work in universities...

The fact is that everyone who has been to a university needs to be a

hell of a lot more GRATEFUL that those folks helped create as many

opportunities for them that they did...

And if you want SMARTER ARGUMENTS to be taken more seriously in

universities...

Then START MAKING THEM...

And STOP WHINING...

It's unbecoming:):):):):):)...

In my experience...though I've dealt with FAR MORE than my fair share

of liberal, conservative, radical, religious, anarchist, libertarian

and other professors giving more hell than was good for my education...

Most if not ALL of these people...will...as a general rule...listen to

GOOD ARGUMENTS BETTER than almost anyone else in the

culture:):):):):):)...

Universities don't have the reputation of having the smartest folks

among them for no reason at all, for goodness sakes:):):)...

A bit of conventional wisdom that I'm surprised that this forum engages

in so much CONSPIRACY THEORY to ignore:):):):):):)...

(Nonsense conspiracy comes from ALL DIRECTIONS, folks:):):):):):)...not

just from the left:):):):):):)...

Universities have that reputation...

Because they, generally, ARE the places where the SMARTEST PEOPLE hang

out...and teach...and get hired:):):):):):)...

And Lefty is right:):):):):):)...

If you want to change them...I suggest you study up...and become a part

of one:):):):):):)...

Or study up...and become a part of one of the HUNDREDS of think tanks

that CRITIQUE them:):):):):):) (fairly

and...often...not-so-fairly:):):):):):)...

But the thing that the right is FAR OVERREACHING itself on these days

is in the terribly deceptive and awfully-conceived effort by folks like

David Horowitz to CENSOR people they disagree with (and it becomes

clearer the more you read and listen to David that what he means is to

censor the LEFT, not the right, as he DEFENDS -- rightly -- Larry

Summers -- against efforts to impose political correctness from the

left...and DEFENDS -- WRONGLY -- efforts to impose political

correctness on folks like Ward Churchill or this professor that Ala

features, from the right...

What EVERYONE needs to learn how to do is to BE A GROWN-UP, write GOOD

PAPERS...make GOOD ARGUMENTS...and STOP THE WHINING, for god's sakes...

I thought the point of the best of conservatism was to LEAVE BEHIND THE

LEGACY OF VICTIMHOOD...NOT EMBRACE IT AS CONSERVATIVES' OWN CAUSE, for

goodness sakes...

Really...y'all...

Victimhood looks unattractive on liberals...and it looks EQUALLY

unattractive on conservatives:):):):):):):):):):):):)...

The secret to improving Universities...always...perpetually...

Is really no secret at all:):):):):):)...

In fact, it is the MOST OPEN SECRET in the culture, all taken

together:):):):):):):):):):):):)...

It is to think...

To think more...

To think better...

And to subject your thoughts to the criticisms and constructive

suggestions of everyone...

Including and ESPECIALLY people you disagree with:):):):):):)...

Which means all of those KOOKY, CONSPIRACY-SPEWING, liberal AND

conservative professors that you or I might run across in a university

setting:):):):):):)...

And even they -- in my experience -- will tend to treat you

fairly...roughly speaking...if you have good ideas:):):):):):)...

So bone on the studying, folks...because a culture cannot sustain

itself on WHINING, I guarantee you:):):):):):)...

It can only sustain itself on GOOD IDEAS:):):):):)...and if you got

em'...offer 'em up:):):)...

And if they're good:):):):):):)...

I GUARANTEE:):):):):):)...THEY WILL STICK:):):):):):):):):)...

Because THAT...by definition...is what a GOOD IDEA

is:):):):):):):):):)...

It is an idea that gets picked up:):):):):):)...because it is just TOO

GOOD TO PASS UP:):):):):):):):):):):):)...

Have a great day, everyone:):):):):):)...

Love,
Ben"...

...and...finally...my post to Bigandmean's roughly paraphrased

question, "How do you stay so open-minded in a liberal university

town?":):):):):):) (Bigandmean is a conservative law professor who I

PRESUME does NOT live in a liberal university town:):):):):):)...

"It's a great question, bigandmean:):):):):):)...

I ask myself that question ALL THE

TIME:):):):):):):):):):):):)LOL:):):):):):):):)...

My undergrad experience was in my home town of Wichita, Kansas at

Wichita State University...which is a much more open university to

conservative ideas...MANY of my professors were conservatives and

Republicans...and I was more of libertarian, really, going into college

from high school...I read and argued with my liberal professors about

authors like Ayn Rand, and Nathaniel Branden, and Murray Rothbard, and

ALAN GREENSPAN:):):) (did you know that Alan was an Objectivist and

SERIOUS libertarian, back in the day?:):):):):):)...that was the FIRST

encounter I had with the name, Alan Greenspan:):):):):):)...on the

cover of an objectivist newsletter way back in my last years of high

school researching for debate rounds at the nearby university

library:):):):):):)...

WSU was also MUCH MORE involved with the business community in Wichita

than the University of Kansas is, here in Lawrence, I think...MANY, of

the business owners in Lawrence are KU grads...but...in Wichita...not

only were many of the folks Wichita State grads...but the university

made a proactive effort to connect the university with the local

business community...

A MUCH DIFFERENT OUTLOOK than a liberal university town campus

perspective:):):):):):)...

So when conservatives criticize liberals as not being REALLY in favor

of diversity -- meaning ideological diversity:):):) -- I know EXACTLY

what they mean:):):):):):)...

I had ONE HELL of a time in grad school trying to voice conservative,

libertarian, Christian, and religious viewpoints in a radical/liberal

graduate program dominated by two radical Ph.D.'s/professors who showed

FAR TOO LITTLE tolerance for viewpoints different from their own...

But it was good getting all of the experiences...the good ones and the

bad ones...

I call myself a liberal because of my deepened theological perspective,

lately...

Meaning...I grew up and was a youth leader in a little liberal church

in Wichita, Kansas called Unity Church...which was, generally, a REALLY

WONDERFUL spiritual/religious experience for me:):):)...

And...fundamentally...for me...this meant living a life of authentic

love and compassion and understanding for all people...no matter

what...just like Christs' example...

This doesn't mean you let people murder you, of course...that you don't

take terrorists seriously...or murder seriously...or crime...or

violence...or whatever...

It just means that -- as Bobby Kennedy spoke about after the

assassination of Martin Luther King --that you reach past your pain to

find compassion and understanding that helps to better deal with these

and other serious problems in a society and a community:):):)...

And I do that to the best of my ability every day of my

life:):):):):):)...

Desult has counciled me on keeping these posts shorter,

Bigandmean:):):):):):)...so I'll do that now and we can talk more

later:):):):):):)...

Talk soon:):):):):):)...

Love,
Ben"

Thanks...Ala and Bigandmean...for offering such great forums to discuss

important stuff:):):):):):)...

And thanks to everyone else for being patient with the little

technological snafu that we encountered, here;):):):):):)...

Love,
Ben